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I dont know why this topic was closed but here we are. Anyways before watching him here in Madrid, Ive trashed my perfecto t-shirt and my original oakey cd's. He was my hero.
This is what I read someone in the organisation declare about what happened that night.
"We want to tell all of you that we are the first ones to be let down by the horrible act, let call him artist to refer to him in some way... the problems started before his performance with lack of profesionalism attending the hotel hall one hour late, in a highly alcoholic state, him and the people with him... his lack of interest in front of both promoters and you the spectators was very clear from the moment he forces us in an agressive way that his "friend" dj before him, without us being able to do anything, so our dj's timetable is completely altered... in the signed contract with his agency it was meant to be a 3 hour set, so we will undertake the necessary measures"- Message zappa (Joined 07/26/09, 9 posts)
RE: Oakeys Worst session ever v.2
Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 4:09 AM by zappaI was there during the set and it was exactly 75minutes long. What grabed my attention more than anything was his lack of interest in the set and the crowd. He had his back facing the crowd most of the time, spent time talking to people behind him, no thought placed in the mixing, we caught him looking at his watch multiple times, its clear that he wosent there, when his tracks were exploding and reaching their aphex he often wosent even in the booth. I would have done better to play any of his old mixes.
RE: Oakeys Worst session ever v.2
Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 4:33 AM by CrydangeA good DJ performance depends on so many things that must be there together at the same place, same time, that you can't only charge him to not having done what he was expected to do. Have you read his reply to the (unfortunately) deleted thread ?
It's easy to criticize the guy who's in front of the crowd. Promoters are behind.
RE: Oakeys Worst session ever v.2
Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM by Raquel LinsCrydange,which deleted thread?If you are relating to the first topic,it is still in the message board,and the last post on it was a Oakenfold reply.I agree with you in all the rest=).
Zappa,there is the possibility Oakenfold himself closed the topic.
RE: Oakeys Worst session ever v.2
Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:33 AM by zappaThe question remains on what happened that night. Im 30 years old, and have been clubbing since I was 16 years old (drinking age was 16 back in the day)... that's 14 years, easier said than done.
What cannot be dennied is the complete lack of interest, people are dying to get on the plates, take the magical booth, make the crowd jump, be the in the command room of the party, be thecenter of it all the director. Oakenfold is supposed to be one of the top in the world. What I saw that night was him playing close to no attention to the crowd, going to talk to the people in the back of the booth mutliple times, look at his watch too much, very unspecial set, the moment the set finishes he puts his back to the audience never to show it again and starts posing for photographs. Given that the set ended up being little over an hour, it was even more disapointing.
Yeah Oakenfold set up a post explaining everything and justifying himself. Although some of it might have some truth to it. The end of it all falls on his shoulders, and if he had performed 100% there like everyone in a booth tries to do, he would have nothing to defend. If you give your max you dont have to regret anything. A little appology or a coment that made us realize that we are all human would be more than enough!!! Denial, excuses, avoidance wont get anyone anywhere
Im still waiting on meeting up with people that were organizing the event.
In any case all these things are all only important on a supercial level. And Karma is Karma. But there is something about having Oakenfold as a companion in trance all this time that make things hurt strangely.
RE: Oakeys Worst session ever v.2
Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM by Raquel LinsZappa,
You're doing an entire discussion because of ONE event.Please,i suggest you that you give him a second chance and go to another event that he plays.I know we need to wait,because we do not have chances commonly to do so,but,just wait some time probably you will have a chance very soon. Oakey just had health problems with his arm,as you could see in another post people wishing he would feel better.
Unfortunately,i'm closing this topic,as you too were given an opportunity to even post him another reply.Both have spoken,so I think it's fair.I also had to delete one reply of a member today in this thread(i'm sending him a message privately,with excuses and also an explanation about how we discuss things in a polite way),and i think we can both agree that this subject was well debated.Anything please feel free to send me a message.
Its a PITY you think like that.............
Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:11 AM by IanI see the thread was closed on OAKEYS WORST SHOW. Its a pity because this needed more debate.
My experience with Oakey, and I admit, Ive only seen him once (because he thinks South Africa is on the God-forsaken side of the earth) was fantastic. I am sorry that the experience in Portugal was different. Oakey performed and treated the SA audience like they were a million dollars. He signed everything offered to him from vinyls to bra's and didnt mind posing for picks with the crowd. My only bitch about him is that we dont have the opportunity to see him more in South Africa. It is well documentated that Mr Oakenfold is highly professional and a seasoned performer. I know its no consellation but everyone deserves a "bad day at the office", and perhaps Oakie was having just that. While I understand your disapointment - there's no reason (as a die-hard Oakey fan) to go trashing your Perfecto shirt. Thats unforgiveable - you're going to hell, brother!
RE: Its a PITY you think like that.............
Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:31 AM by Raquel LinsIan,you didn't notice,i guess,that in the forum are 3 topics with THE SAME discussion:
http://pauloakenfold.com/forum/genera/17391
http://pauloakenfold.com/forum/bestshowever/17611
http://pauloakenfold.com/forum/bestshowever/18736
in the second one,Oakenfold himself replied and i guess HE CLOSED the topic.I DIDN'T DO IT. And i kept the discussion going,as it reached the third one.What happened is that a member(under the name pd),posted a REALLY BAD message,even saying bad words to Oakenfold and his friends.I had to close the topic as i gave the opportunity to something that i even don't know if Oakenfold would like to be happening.I guess he thought it was enough debated and he closed the second one.The third i closed due to the circuntances. So,Zappa started 3 topics with the same subject,and on the third i wrote that i think it was given the opportunities to hear the opinions of both sides.So,please,do not judge a person just like Zappa did without reading the messages.I explained well in another thread that i deleted only one message,and closed only when it reached the third.
Believe me,you were not the only one to defend him.Me and others replied the 3 topics with these kind of messages,so,Zappa certainly had others points of view and that's why I also thought it was debated.But,there we go again...
Sincerely,
Raquel.
Ps.:I just noticed even my reply(along with others members posts)to the second topic was deleted.Only Zappa's message and Oakenfold answer are there.I would like to inform i'm not the only moderator in here.
RE: Its a PITY you think like that.............
Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:43 PM by ga11agh3rIan, I'm not sure this did need further debate...
Although I do feel sorry for zappa and his experiences with the show in question, I think that his repeated insistence to both bump his topics and create additional threads, surmounted to a somewhat personal attack on Paul - something that no artist wants to see on the front page of their official site.
I agree that zappa has a right to express his feelings (which he did in a suitable way in the first post), he even received an official response but then continued to post threads containing an air of negativity.
Sometimes the more subtle approach gains the best results. Maybe a small PM to Paul himself (or one of the admins) could have give a personal answer to his frustrations?
RE: Its a PITY you think like that.............
Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:22 PM by IanHi you missed the spirit of my posting: I wasnt bitching that the thread had been removed but rather that there wasnt two side's to each story. While the "ex fan" my have had a bad experience in Portugal - there were many of us that have had great experiences. If he wanted to trash Oakie he should have found some other site instead of here where we partcipate because we enjoy what Mr Oakenfold does. One consellation for this matter is: Oakie does read these postings and activitely partcipates - that's reassuring for us that take part in this site!
RE: Oakeys Worst session ever v.2
Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM by Paul OakenfoldPoint taken. Again, this is my response. I hope that we can move on from this matter:
To the fans that attended the recent club show in Madrid, it’s a tremendous shame that this night was reduced to a complete and utter debacle, due to the unprofessional nature of a promoter falsely advertising the details of my scheduled performance and acting outside the guidelines of the established contract. These hindrances led to me being unable to begin my performance at the scheduled time and my set time being reduced from 2 hours to 90 minutes. I was never scheduled to perform for 3 hours as the advertising had implied. For those of you that were in attendance, you witnessed the 15 dancers who were placed directly in front of the DJ Booth, with a lack of regard for the performance and against my will. I am truly let down by the organizers of this event and sympathize with those of you who were misguided by the information they provided. I wish that there is something I could do to make it up to you but unfortunately it is a situation that is out of my hands. My apologies go out to the fans and thank you for your support in this matter. - Paul